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		<title>By: Clive Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It makes no sense at all that one side of the business makes enormous profits while the other struggles to stay afloat.&lt;/i&gt;
- As a publisher I would love to know which side of the business makes &quot;enormous profits&quot;. Something ending in &quot;.com&quot; comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It makes no sense at all that one side of the business makes enormous profits while the other struggles to stay afloat.</i><br />
- As a publisher I would love to know which side of the business makes &#8220;enormous profits&#8221;. Something ending in &#8220;.com&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Life After Harry Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life After Harry Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kassia Krozser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassia Krozser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pointing out moronic twits is always okay around here... especially if you get to make people mad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pointing out moronic twits is always okay around here&#8230; especially if you get to make people mad!</p>
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		<title>By: booklover</title>
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		<dc:creator>booklover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are indeed correct that my parents did not saddle me with that name. But given that I toil in the nether regions of the book selling world, even at the lowest depths, keeping my identity a secret seems prudent, especially since I seem to have an uncanny ability to piss off said employers, if only for pointing out that sometimes they are moronic twits. Hope that&#039;s OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are indeed correct that my parents did not saddle me with that name. But given that I toil in the nether regions of the book selling world, even at the lowest depths, keeping my identity a secret seems prudent, especially since I seem to have an uncanny ability to piss off said employers, if only for pointing out that sometimes they are moronic twits. Hope that&#8217;s OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Kassia Krozser</title>
		<link>http://booksquare.com/harry-potter-and-the-pricing-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-166153</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassia Krozser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed1 - Thanks for getting the last name right (g). I so appreciate it (and the shout out!).

Ed2 - The ASDA thing is fascinating to me, but mostly because my background is a world where nobody stops shipment due to lack of payment. Adn when it&#039;s cited as a reason for withholding product, well, that suggest there&#039;s more to the story.

Jill and Shanna - Love the back and forth and think there&#039;s a lot of truth in what you&#039;re both saying. Pratchett, for my money (and I&#039;m admittedly not a sci fi/fantasy freak, though, oddly, I love the genre; I am a mass of contradictions), doesn&#039;t grab me the same way. The Potter books truly cross generations. I didn&#039;t get the same sense from Pratchett. For my money, Robin Hobb is a far better choice, though, like Pratchett, she&#039;s creating denser, more adult worlds.

Don -- the cutting out the middle man thing is what&#039;s happening in the music business. Your homework is to read the history of Clap Your Hands, Say Yeah. Mistakes were made but concepts were proven. The Stephen King experiment is often cited as proof that the model won&#039;t work. I see it as proof that the model wasn&#039;t well-considered. Give the people what they want, and, well, they&#039;ll keep coming back.

Forrest -- great comment on intimacy. It&#039;s a problem with fiction when the reader feels like he or she is distanced from the story. I mean, I want to be immersed in a world. I love it when I look up and realize I&#039;ve been reading for hours. Nothing better.

Booklover (presumably not your real name) -- Price matters. Price really matters. I&#039;m sorry, but the divide between rich and poor is like the Grand Canyon. Books must be affordable if they are to be read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed1 &#8211; Thanks for getting the last name right (g). I so appreciate it (and the shout out!).</p>
<p>Ed2 &#8211; The ASDA thing is fascinating to me, but mostly because my background is a world where nobody stops shipment due to lack of payment. Adn when it&#8217;s cited as a reason for withholding product, well, that suggest there&#8217;s more to the story.</p>
<p>Jill and Shanna &#8211; Love the back and forth and think there&#8217;s a lot of truth in what you&#8217;re both saying. Pratchett, for my money (and I&#8217;m admittedly not a sci fi/fantasy freak, though, oddly, I love the genre; I am a mass of contradictions), doesn&#8217;t grab me the same way. The Potter books truly cross generations. I didn&#8217;t get the same sense from Pratchett. For my money, Robin Hobb is a far better choice, though, like Pratchett, she&#8217;s creating denser, more adult worlds.</p>
<p>Don &#8212; the cutting out the middle man thing is what&#8217;s happening in the music business. Your homework is to read the history of Clap Your Hands, Say Yeah. Mistakes were made but concepts were proven. The Stephen King experiment is often cited as proof that the model won&#8217;t work. I see it as proof that the model wasn&#8217;t well-considered. Give the people what they want, and, well, they&#8217;ll keep coming back.</p>
<p>Forrest &#8212; great comment on intimacy. It&#8217;s a problem with fiction when the reader feels like he or she is distanced from the story. I mean, I want to be immersed in a world. I love it when I look up and realize I&#8217;ve been reading for hours. Nothing better.</p>
<p>Booklover (presumably not your real name) &#8212; Price matters. Price really matters. I&#8217;m sorry, but the divide between rich and poor is like the Grand Canyon. Books must be affordable if they are to be read.</p>
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		<title>By: booklover</title>
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		<dc:creator>booklover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who is NOT looking forward to Friday night (one of the few bookstore employees who could care less about Harry Potter), I think your point about pricing is well made. My personal library has grown exponentially since I started in the biz, but that&#039;s because I receive a nice discount as part of my employment benefits. If I was your average schmoe coming in off the street, I would choke if you told me I would have to pay $35 (or higher) for a hardcover book. And while you talk about bestsellers and books from major publishing houses, what about books from small presses or, heaven forbid, university presses. I recently bought a biography published by the University Press of Kansas that was lower priced than many, but still high at $45. When trying to figure out why our sales are down, I am greeted with blank stares when I suggest that someone who is paying $45 to fill his or her gas tank doesn&#039;t have to (nor do they want to) spend that money on a book that will sit, most likely, sit on their shelf unread or end up in a yard sale being sold for a quarter. I&#039;ve often thought that when publishers bring out books that maybe they should go ahead and release a trade paperback version with the hardcover. Those who collect the books will pay the higher price while those who just want to read it will pay less, but book sales might improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who is NOT looking forward to Friday night (one of the few bookstore employees who could care less about Harry Potter), I think your point about pricing is well made. My personal library has grown exponentially since I started in the biz, but that&#8217;s because I receive a nice discount as part of my employment benefits. If I was your average schmoe coming in off the street, I would choke if you told me I would have to pay $35 (or higher) for a hardcover book. And while you talk about bestsellers and books from major publishing houses, what about books from small presses or, heaven forbid, university presses. I recently bought a biography published by the University Press of Kansas that was lower priced than many, but still high at $45. When trying to figure out why our sales are down, I am greeted with blank stares when I suggest that someone who is paying $45 to fill his or her gas tank doesn&#8217;t have to (nor do they want to) spend that money on a book that will sit, most likely, sit on their shelf unread or end up in a yard sale being sold for a quarter. I&#8217;ve often thought that when publishers bring out books that maybe they should go ahead and release a trade paperback version with the hardcover. Those who collect the books will pay the higher price while those who just want to read it will pay less, but book sales might improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why Harry Potter readers still ignore Terri Pratchett even after it has been constantly recommended to them (both by booksellers and by the media), I will never know.&quot;

In the &quot;Star Trek&quot; episode of FUTURAMA, Fry says: &quot;It made me feel like I could have friends, even though I didn&#039;t.&quot;

HP has that characteristic of intimacy.  Terry&#039;s stuff (which I used to order from the UK because I couldn&#039;t stand the wait) doesn&#039;t.  Very little fiction I&#039;ve read does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Harry Potter readers still ignore Terri Pratchett even after it has been constantly recommended to them (both by booksellers and by the media), I will never know.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; episode of FUTURAMA, Fry says: &#8220;It made me feel like I could have friends, even though I didn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>HP has that characteristic of intimacy.  Terry&#8217;s stuff (which I used to order from the UK because I couldn&#8217;t stand the wait) doesn&#8217;t.  Very little fiction I&#8217;ve read does.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanna Swendson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanna Swendson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is that B&amp;N owes me a commission from my experiences at the past two Harry Potter nights from all the books I sold for them. People milling around the store get bored, and I started recommending books that people ended up buying. I also watched people picking up the books on the front tables, looking at them, and putting them down. The usual bestsellers, lit-fic and Oprah books there didn&#039;t seem to appeal to that crowd, so I sneakily moved a few books I thought these readers would like to the front tables and then watched all of them be carried up to the cash registers after people looked at them.

I guess the chains are so tied to publisher co-op money that they don&#039;t have room to re-do the front-of-store displays, but from what I saw, if they&#039;d even done one front-of-store display of &quot;what to read next&quot; books instead of the usual new releases display, they&#039;d have sold a lot more books that night. It&#039;s a captive audience, and once you&#039;ve made your wand and had your picture taken with a costumed character, you need something else to do, so you might as well shop for books. True, a lot of those readers aren&#039;t looking for anything else, but with such a HUGE readership, even a small percentage being turned on to more would still be highly profitable and would make it more than worthwhile to set up a special display or two to help them find new stuff while they&#039;re in the store, or maybe even have a discussion about other books as part of the night&#039;s activities (for those who don&#039;t want to make a magic wand).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is that B&amp;N owes me a commission from my experiences at the past two Harry Potter nights from all the books I sold for them. People milling around the store get bored, and I started recommending books that people ended up buying. I also watched people picking up the books on the front tables, looking at them, and putting them down. The usual bestsellers, lit-fic and Oprah books there didn&#8217;t seem to appeal to that crowd, so I sneakily moved a few books I thought these readers would like to the front tables and then watched all of them be carried up to the cash registers after people looked at them.</p>
<p>I guess the chains are so tied to publisher co-op money that they don&#8217;t have room to re-do the front-of-store displays, but from what I saw, if they&#8217;d even done one front-of-store display of &#8220;what to read next&#8221; books instead of the usual new releases display, they&#8217;d have sold a lot more books that night. It&#8217;s a captive audience, and once you&#8217;ve made your wand and had your picture taken with a costumed character, you need something else to do, so you might as well shop for books. True, a lot of those readers aren&#8217;t looking for anything else, but with such a HUGE readership, even a small percentage being turned on to more would still be highly profitable and would make it more than worthwhile to set up a special display or two to help them find new stuff while they&#8217;re in the store, or maybe even have a discussion about other books as part of the night&#8217;s activities (for those who don&#8217;t want to make a magic wand).</p>
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		<title>By: Don Linn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose Ms Rowling had sold the book in serialized electronic form one chapter at a time from her own website (or Bloomsbury&#039;s for that matter), cutting out the retail channel entirely until the serialization was completed.

If you were a fan, how much would you pay for the first chapter? The next chapter? For the final chapter? Would it be more or less than $35.00?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose Ms Rowling had sold the book in serialized electronic form one chapter at a time from her own website (or Bloomsbury&#8217;s for that matter), cutting out the retail channel entirely until the serialization was completed.</p>
<p>If you were a fan, how much would you pay for the first chapter? The next chapter? For the final chapter? Would it be more or less than $35.00?</p>
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		<title>By: jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shanna,

As a bookseller, I can tell you that this time is hardly the &quot;golden opportunity to try to move the Harry Potter readers on to other things.&quot; most readers are only interested in Harry Potter.  

Most Harry Potter fans are rereading the entire series in preparation for the final book. They did the same thing two years ago with the release of book 6. 

And yes, we&#039;ve tried to move Harry Potter readers onto other things. It&#039;s the logical thing to do, and it&#039;s been tried before. It&#039;s just that, for many different reasons, the readers don&#039;t take. And these are with adult books, not YA (which is a pity because YA fantasy can provide a lot of gems for readers of all ages). I can see why someone who might really like Harry Potter might struggle with Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell or His Dark Materials. Why Harry Potter readers still ignore Terri Pratchett even after it has been constantly recommended to them (both by booksellers and by the media), I will never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shanna,</p>
<p>As a bookseller, I can tell you that this time is hardly the &#8220;golden opportunity to try to move the Harry Potter readers on to other things.&#8221; most readers are only interested in Harry Potter.  </p>
<p>Most Harry Potter fans are rereading the entire series in preparation for the final book. They did the same thing two years ago with the release of book 6. </p>
<p>And yes, we&#8217;ve tried to move Harry Potter readers onto other things. It&#8217;s the logical thing to do, and it&#8217;s been tried before. It&#8217;s just that, for many different reasons, the readers don&#8217;t take. And these are with adult books, not YA (which is a pity because YA fantasy can provide a lot of gems for readers of all ages). I can see why someone who might really like Harry Potter might struggle with Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell or His Dark Materials. Why Harry Potter readers still ignore Terri Pratchett even after it has been constantly recommended to them (both by booksellers and by the media), I will never know.</p>
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