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		<title>By: Kassia Krozser</title>
		<link>http://booksquare.com/thoughts-on-the-future-of-books/comment-page-1/#comment-165444</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassia Krozser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s okay, Robert, my mother isn&#039;t sure who I am. She knows I&#039;m one of the whiny ones, but it&#039;s hard to tell, specifically, where I fall in the queue (I resent this, of course, being the oldest and her favorite, but, well, what can I do?).

I would like to state for the record that I have met &lt;a href=&quot;http://mumpsimus.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mumpsimus&lt;/a&gt; more than once, and, yeah, you want to know him. He&#039;s great. He&#039;s lovely. He&#039;s my kind of guy. I met him last year when the AWP was inadvertently holding their conference at the same time SXSW was happening. Another litblogger and I snuck out of the &quot;how to blog when you don&#039;t wanna&quot; session to watch the AWP blog session.

As for publishers &quot;knowing&quot; the online culture, well, a few do. Jeremy from &lt;a href=&quot;http://thepenguinblog.typepad.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Penguin&lt;/a&gt; gets it, absolutely. He&#039;s not an editor who thinks about what the web can do for him; he actually uses the web as part of his life. Now I&#039;m not suggesting that I know anything about his secret activities, but...

Did you hit the fictional characters blog? I haven&#039;t had a chance to write about that yet, but it was great. Too short. Too much information to digest in a half hour, too much information to cover. I wanted more -- and I rarely say that about conference panels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s okay, Robert, my mother isn&#8217;t sure who I am. She knows I&#8217;m one of the whiny ones, but it&#8217;s hard to tell, specifically, where I fall in the queue (I resent this, of course, being the oldest and her favorite, but, well, what can I do?).</p>
<p>I would like to state for the record that I have met <a href="http://mumpsimus.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Mumpsimus</a> more than once, and, yeah, you want to know him. He&#8217;s great. He&#8217;s lovely. He&#8217;s my kind of guy. I met him last year when the AWP was inadvertently holding their conference at the same time SXSW was happening. Another litblogger and I snuck out of the &#8220;how to blog when you don&#8217;t wanna&#8221; session to watch the AWP blog session.</p>
<p>As for publishers &#8220;knowing&#8221; the online culture, well, a few do. Jeremy from <a href="http://thepenguinblog.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">Penguin</a> gets it, absolutely. He&#8217;s not an editor who thinks about what the web can do for him; he actually uses the web as part of his life. Now I&#8217;m not suggesting that I know anything about his secret activities, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Did you hit the fictional characters blog? I haven&#8217;t had a chance to write about that yet, but it was great. Too short. Too much information to digest in a half hour, too much information to cover. I wanted more &#8212; and I rarely say that about conference panels.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nagle</title>
		<link>http://booksquare.com/thoughts-on-the-future-of-books/comment-page-1/#comment-165440</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(a response to this post and your other one about SXSW). 

I  was at SXSW and probably attended several of the same panels as you--although I haven&#039;t the foggiest idea who you are :) 

The print world doesn&#039;t know what to make of the interactive conference. It has more of a workshop feel than a commercial feel. 

SXSW is more about indie media and promotion/marketing and cross-pollination. For example,  three  of my most interesting/useful sessions I attended for me as a writer was the lonelygirl panel and one on remixing video  and gamer Richard Garriot&#039;s panel on storytelling. 

One thing  publishers are doing at  SXSW is using the lure of free book copies to interest SXSW organizers to start panels around their &quot;media celebrity.&quot;  When a panel description contains a messsage that &quot;100 free copies of this book will be handed out to the audience,&quot; you know you are  becoming an unwitting part of a publicity campaign. 

BTW, I attended a future of the book panel.  The panelists had interesting perspectives, but really had little idea what was going on in the digital publishing world (although the audience seemed to).  I (who write for teleread.org , a site that covers the ebook world) was particularly astonished that Kahle went on record as saying that ebooks were unlikely to amount to anything anytime soon.  

Interestingly last year, they had a literary conference next door going on at roughly the same time as SXSW.  Writers had no idea SXSW even existed, and interactive people had no idea the literary conference was going on. (I would have attended but never heard about it--I would have liked to meet Mumpsimus, for example, who was there). 

Literary pursuits are moving  towards collaboration (see for example http://ficlets.com/ ), so it only makes sense that the interactive sessions would be useful for people trying to start stuff. SXSW has been particularly good about providing pointers about  cultivating an online community.  Publishers don&#039;t know how to sell an &quot;online experience&quot; or experimental storytelling. They are more comfortable selling conventional forms of storytelling.  On the other hand, this is a really good crowd for lulu and blurb. 

BTW, I am happy to report that I did not blog once about any of the panels I attended this year.  (I blogged about it for my city paper last year as was exhausted).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(a response to this post and your other one about SXSW). </p>
<p>I  was at SXSW and probably attended several of the same panels as you&#8211;although I haven&#8217;t the foggiest idea who you are <img src='http://booksquare.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>The print world doesn&#8217;t know what to make of the interactive conference. It has more of a workshop feel than a commercial feel. </p>
<p>SXSW is more about indie media and promotion/marketing and cross-pollination. For example,  three  of my most interesting/useful sessions I attended for me as a writer was the lonelygirl panel and one on remixing video  and gamer Richard Garriot&#8217;s panel on storytelling. </p>
<p>One thing  publishers are doing at  SXSW is using the lure of free book copies to interest SXSW organizers to start panels around their &#8220;media celebrity.&#8221;  When a panel description contains a messsage that &#8220;100 free copies of this book will be handed out to the audience,&#8221; you know you are  becoming an unwitting part of a publicity campaign. </p>
<p>BTW, I attended a future of the book panel.  The panelists had interesting perspectives, but really had little idea what was going on in the digital publishing world (although the audience seemed to).  I (who write for teleread.org , a site that covers the ebook world) was particularly astonished that Kahle went on record as saying that ebooks were unlikely to amount to anything anytime soon.  </p>
<p>Interestingly last year, they had a literary conference next door going on at roughly the same time as SXSW.  Writers had no idea SXSW even existed, and interactive people had no idea the literary conference was going on. (I would have attended but never heard about it&#8211;I would have liked to meet Mumpsimus, for example, who was there). </p>
<p>Literary pursuits are moving  towards collaboration (see for example <a href="http://ficlets.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ficlets.com/</a> ), so it only makes sense that the interactive sessions would be useful for people trying to start stuff. SXSW has been particularly good about providing pointers about  cultivating an online community.  Publishers don&#8217;t know how to sell an &#8220;online experience&#8221; or experimental storytelling. They are more comfortable selling conventional forms of storytelling.  On the other hand, this is a really good crowd for lulu and blurb. </p>
<p>BTW, I am happy to report that I did not blog once about any of the panels I attended this year.  (I blogged about it for my city paper last year as was exhausted).</p>
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		<title>By: Morris Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morris Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;m guessing you mean his essay &quot;What makes a book a book?&quot; from 1999, that was lost and then found by a mysterious &quot;Lindsay&quot; and republished by Merholz on September 14th, 1999 on his blog (down near the bottom):

http://www.peterme.com/browsed/browsed090899.html

It reminds me of something I wrote myself on returning from the Electronic Book 2000 conference put on in D.C. by the National Institute of Standards. Needless to say, everything was resolved and all in e-book land has been hunky-dory since:-)  That article is title &quot;What&#039;s in a Name&quot; and starts about halfway down the page at,

http://www.fonerbooks.com/naming.htm

I ended with a definition of terms:

&quot;Post Office&quot; - 1. Coming after the office. Usually refers to the period of time coming after the &quot;information age&quot; and before &quot; Aquarius.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;m guessing you mean his essay &#8220;What makes a book a book?&#8221; from 1999, that was lost and then found by a mysterious &#8220;Lindsay&#8221; and republished by Merholz on September 14th, 1999 on his blog (down near the bottom):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peterme.com/browsed/browsed090899.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.peterme.com/browsed/browsed090899.html</a></p>
<p>It reminds me of something I wrote myself on returning from the Electronic Book 2000 conference put on in D.C. by the National Institute of Standards. Needless to say, everything was resolved and all in e-book land has been hunky-dory since:-)  That article is title &#8220;What&#8217;s in a Name&#8221; and starts about halfway down the page at,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fonerbooks.com/naming.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fonerbooks.com/naming.htm</a></p>
<p>I ended with a definition of terms:</p>
<p>&#8220;Post Office&#8221; &#8211; 1. Coming after the office. Usually refers to the period of time coming after the &#8220;information age&#8221; and before &#8221; Aquarius.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kassia Krozser</title>
		<link>http://booksquare.com/thoughts-on-the-future-of-books/comment-page-1/#comment-165419</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassia Krozser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m free and easy with the brownie points (also I think I owe you an email, argh, so far behind). I was actually referring to the article written by Merholz himself. I believe it&#039;s on the archived version of his website and I didn&#039;t see a search function, and, well, you know, so little time, so many links to track down.

Enjoy the points -- they&#039;re low cal. Mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m free and easy with the brownie points (also I think I owe you an email, argh, so far behind). I was actually referring to the article written by Merholz himself. I believe it&#8217;s on the archived version of his website and I didn&#8217;t see a search function, and, well, you know, so little time, so many links to track down.</p>
<p>Enjoy the points &#8212; they&#8217;re low cal. Mostly.</p>
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		<title>By: Morris Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://booksquare.com/thoughts-on-the-future-of-books/comment-page-1/#comment-165418</link>
		<dc:creator>Morris Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love to get some brownie points, but not sure which article you were referring to in the link to the discussion from 1999 on Greenspun&#039;s board. Merholz refers to the Drucker article in Atlantic and Small&#039;s &quot;Rethinking the Book&quot; dissertation, both of which are available through Google Scholar (links too big to paste in).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love to get some brownie points, but not sure which article you were referring to in the link to the discussion from 1999 on Greenspun&#8217;s board. Merholz refers to the Drucker article in Atlantic and Small&#8217;s &#8220;Rethinking the Book&#8221; dissertation, both of which are available through Google Scholar (links too big to paste in).</p>
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