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	<title>Comments on: What If You Saved an Imprint and Nobody Came?</title>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I forgot to add:  I don&#039;t pray, and so I&#039;ll simply observe the economics of publishing inexorably destroy the large commercial pulishing companies!   Europe does it another way, and those ways of publishing should be explored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I forgot to add:  I don&#8217;t pray, and so I&#8217;ll simply observe the economics of publishing inexorably destroy the large commercial pulishing companies!   Europe does it another way, and those ways of publishing should be explored.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I prayed, I&#039;d do so every night that the big commercial publishers will collapse, go into bankruptcy and be forced to sell their assets.  Since the 1960s, they have been interested only in their bottom line and have been indifferent to literary excellence.  They are holding publishing back, and it will be better when those &quot;ole boy&quot; publishing networks break up.  The general public never buys books based on the name of the publisher or the imprint!  Sic Semper Tyrannis to the big commercial publishers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I prayed, I&#8217;d do so every night that the big commercial publishers will collapse, go into bankruptcy and be forced to sell their assets.  Since the 1960s, they have been interested only in their bottom line and have been indifferent to literary excellence.  They are holding publishing back, and it will be better when those &#8220;ole boy&#8221; publishing networks break up.  The general public never buys books based on the name of the publisher or the imprint!  Sic Semper Tyrannis to the big commercial publishers!</p>
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		<title>By: The Publishing Recession &#171; Eoin Purcell&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Publishing Recession &#171; Eoin Purcell&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] publishers have decided to lay off staff (there are So-Many-Stories-I-Just-Don&#8217;t-Know-Which-One-To-Pick). Even Newspaper companies chimed in with bad news Tribune Co. went into bankruptcy and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] publishers have decided to lay off staff (there are So-Many-Stories-I-Just-Don&#8217;t-Know-Which-One-To-Pick). Even Newspaper companies chimed in with bad news Tribune Co. went into bankruptcy and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Thayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kassia,
Yes, the rights are back with me resting comfortably after their mad cap little journey from my desk drawer. The publisher was explicit about that. He handled this quite well under the circumstances so don&#039;t be distraught on my account, but I appreciate your thoughts.
Meanwhile I&#039;m circulating another manuscript, proof that someone in this loop is crazy, quite possibly me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kassia,<br />
Yes, the rights are back with me resting comfortably after their mad cap little journey from my desk drawer. The publisher was explicit about that. He handled this quite well under the circumstances so don&#8217;t be distraught on my account, but I appreciate your thoughts.<br />
Meanwhile I&#8217;m circulating another manuscript, proof that someone in this loop is crazy, quite possibly me.</p>
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		<title>By: KatG</title>
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		<dc:creator>KatG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Random House cares about saving imprints at all. Saying that they are trying to save imprints is just group-speak for &quot;we&#039;re going to cut a lot of jobs and the people who remain will now be doing the work of three positions for the same salary, but we don&#039;t want to admit this is what is happening, so we&#039;ll just call it a reorganization.&quot; 

The big problems that publishing has are distribution/number of vendors, which has gotten too small, and publicity methods. Word of mouth sells books, especially fiction, but first off, people need to know the books exist. Trade publishers are very bad at this unless the people whose attention they are trying to attract walk into a bookstore. Traditional advertising is expensive, sure, with low return, but publishers have been reluctant to come up with other ways to market books and to use the Internet. Nothing is really a niche in trade publishing -- every book can have a fair amount of general appeal -- if publishers can harness media and have the book out there where people actually encounter it. 

Of course, then there is the the returns issue for print books and the difficulty of invading an electronics market that doesn&#039;t want book publishing for e-books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Random House cares about saving imprints at all. Saying that they are trying to save imprints is just group-speak for &#8220;we&#8217;re going to cut a lot of jobs and the people who remain will now be doing the work of three positions for the same salary, but we don&#8217;t want to admit this is what is happening, so we&#8217;ll just call it a reorganization.&#8221; </p>
<p>The big problems that publishing has are distribution/number of vendors, which has gotten too small, and publicity methods. Word of mouth sells books, especially fiction, but first off, people need to know the books exist. Trade publishers are very bad at this unless the people whose attention they are trying to attract walk into a bookstore. Traditional advertising is expensive, sure, with low return, but publishers have been reluctant to come up with other ways to market books and to use the Internet. Nothing is really a niche in trade publishing &#8212; every book can have a fair amount of general appeal &#8212; if publishers can harness media and have the book out there where people actually encounter it. </p>
<p>Of course, then there is the the returns issue for print books and the difficulty of invading an electronics market that doesn&#8217;t want book publishing for e-books.</p>
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		<title>By: Kassia Krozser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassia Krozser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard -- I was worried about you! Thanks for weighing in on this topic. Your voice is always one of reason (which, given my flights of fancy, is necessary).

Good points about capitalization and stability. As David and Gina have shown, small without a solid financial base can be difficult. Heck, we&#039;ve seen this lack of solidity on the part of e-only publishers (this makes me wonder on whole new levels). There&#039;s a need to, first, be realistic about your market and your goals -- and then everything else.

Interesting about the bulk of the Borders returns being received. That has to help everyone&#039;s books (financial, not necessarily reading).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8212; I was worried about you! Thanks for weighing in on this topic. Your voice is always one of reason (which, given my flights of fancy, is necessary).</p>
<p>Good points about capitalization and stability. As David and Gina have shown, small without a solid financial base can be difficult. Heck, we&#8217;ve seen this lack of solidity on the part of e-only publishers (this makes me wonder on whole new levels). There&#8217;s a need to, first, be realistic about your market and your goals &#8212; and then everything else.</p>
<p>Interesting about the bulk of the Borders returns being received. That has to help everyone&#8217;s books (financial, not necessarily reading).</p>
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		<title>By: Kassia Krozser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassia Krozser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -- this is absolutely awful. I am distraught (but also very much certain that you will be swept up by someone with both brains &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; money soon). Please tell me you got your rights back. I am currently very concerned about rights and who owns them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8212; this is absolutely awful. I am distraught (but also very much certain that you will be swept up by someone with both brains <em>and</em> money soon). Please tell me you got your rights back. I am currently very concerned about rights and who owns them.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kassia, Like Gina, I had a novel due out in 2009. Iota Publishing vanished during the month of October wedged somewhere between Hank Paulson&#039;s Fourth Epistle to the Senate and AIG&#039;s implosion. Iota&#039;s demise happened fast, but, hell,GM is on the same trajectory.
It&#039;s unclear to me that the book publishing world is suffering demand destruction ( no one reads) or from a biz model that cedes huge control of its destiny to its trading partners, chain buyers, distributors, agents at the front end. We seem overly reliant on the kindness of strangers. That&#039;s the royal &quot;we&quot; btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kassia, Like Gina, I had a novel due out in 2009. Iota Publishing vanished during the month of October wedged somewhere between Hank Paulson&#8217;s Fourth Epistle to the Senate and AIG&#8217;s implosion. Iota&#8217;s demise happened fast, but, hell,GM is on the same trajectory.<br />
It&#8217;s unclear to me that the book publishing world is suffering demand destruction ( no one reads) or from a biz model that cedes huge control of its destiny to its trading partners, chain buyers, distributors, agents at the front end. We seem overly reliant on the kindness of strangers. That&#8217;s the royal &#8220;we&#8221; btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Authentic voices: microbusiness lessons from the entertainment industry &#124; The Journal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Authentic voices: microbusiness lessons from the entertainment industry &#124; The Journal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, in her Booksquare blog, Kassia Krozser wrote this: This is where I believe we are going to see an incredible rise of independents, publishers who get [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Nash (Soft Skull)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nash (Soft Skull)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, I wish I could have responded earlier, this chain is glorious, truly glorious, kudos as always to Kassia not just for th epost, but for the conversation it engenders in the audience it reaches. I just want to make a few small practical points.

Borders &amp; Indie presses. We&#039;ll be OK, provided that Perseus has to capacity to absorb the hit. Distributors absorb credit risk for the publishers. We&#039;ve pretty much absorbed a good chunk of the potential hit already, since Borders has been returning all year. Also, the inevitable Chapter 11 will mostly be focused on getting expensive leases canceled.

Start-ups. I&#039;ve talked to a couple of folks who&#039;ve been laid off and suggested that they EVENTUALLY consider starting up a new press. I&#039;d advise against it right now because retailers and wholesalers are shifting all the inventory risk they can onto publishers, and there&#039;s just not enough revenue from electronic publishing to compensate. When it reaches 15% of trade book sales, somewhere in the next 2-5 years, that non-returnable, net 30 day, zero marginal cost of reproduction cash flow will be all  it takes.

Big advantages over small. Primary advantage is capital to absorb inventory risk. That will increase in the short run and not diminish until said risk is reduced with electronic publishing. All the other  advantages are declining at various rates — manufacturing economies of scale will become less relevant; capacity to pay for placement in bricks and mortar less relevant as customers become less obedient; general corporate infrastructure economies of scale will either decline are or fairly trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, I wish I could have responded earlier, this chain is glorious, truly glorious, kudos as always to Kassia not just for th epost, but for the conversation it engenders in the audience it reaches. I just want to make a few small practical points.</p>
<p>Borders &amp; Indie presses. We&#8217;ll be OK, provided that Perseus has to capacity to absorb the hit. Distributors absorb credit risk for the publishers. We&#8217;ve pretty much absorbed a good chunk of the potential hit already, since Borders has been returning all year. Also, the inevitable Chapter 11 will mostly be focused on getting expensive leases canceled.</p>
<p>Start-ups. I&#8217;ve talked to a couple of folks who&#8217;ve been laid off and suggested that they EVENTUALLY consider starting up a new press. I&#8217;d advise against it right now because retailers and wholesalers are shifting all the inventory risk they can onto publishers, and there&#8217;s just not enough revenue from electronic publishing to compensate. When it reaches 15% of trade book sales, somewhere in the next 2-5 years, that non-returnable, net 30 day, zero marginal cost of reproduction cash flow will be all  it takes.</p>
<p>Big advantages over small. Primary advantage is capital to absorb inventory risk. That will increase in the short run and not diminish until said risk is reduced with electronic publishing. All the other  advantages are declining at various rates — manufacturing economies of scale will become less relevant; capacity to pay for placement in bricks and mortar less relevant as customers become less obedient; general corporate infrastructure economies of scale will either decline are or fairly trivial.</p>
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