Comments on: Comfort Reads on the 21st Century https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&%23038;utm_campaign=comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century Dissecting the publishing industry with love and skepticism Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:56:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Kassia Krozser https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170072 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:56:17 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170072 In reply to Abbeville.

Austin — I don’t think we disagree. Of course, something funny happened on the way to my responding to your comment. 1984. It appears the copy uploaded to the Amazon server was unauthorized. However, the consumers purchasing the book had no way of knowing this was an illegal edition. Funnily enough (or sadly, I suppose), this was (if the ebook was truly illegitimate) a case of true piracy. Money changed hands, though not for long.

Yeah, it just reinforces our (agreed) belief that conversation needs to happen to slow the tide of piracy.

(I did enjoy the idea of police enforcing fare-jumping — nothing deters bad behavior like authority figures approving it!)

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By: Abbeville https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170068 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:12:20 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170068 (Whoops…we meant “cracking down” on fare-jumping, not “enforcing” it!)

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By: Abbeville https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170067 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:09:43 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170067 Kassia – the reasons behind piracy are worth investigating, and smart publishers will see a good business opportunity in them. But we’re not sure they’re as “layered” or “unfathomable” as you suggest. Crimes that are easy, low-risk, and apparently victimless (that is, the victim is hard to see or define) always get committed in high numbers by “normally honest” people. Our understanding is that fare-jumping, for example, was orders of magnitude more common in NYC before the police began seriously enforcing it.

I think we need to meet you halfway and suggest that if the piracy problem indeed becomes a major one for publishers, finger-wagging alone will do them no good in solving it–but that, at the same time, the onus won’t be entirely on publishers to reform their business model. More effective anti-piracy enforcement is sorely needed across all branches of the arts. Since the latter point often gets lost, we emphasized it in our piece, but this compromise stance is really what we’ve adopted from the beginning.

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By: The Abbeville Manual of Style | Abbeville Press Blog » Blog Archive » E-Book Piracy, Continued https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170066 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:27:52 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170066 […] digital book piracy, we refer our readers to a pair of recent comment threads at TeleRead and Booksquare, where we mixed ourselves into some further debate on the subject. In the case of […]

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By: Helen E. H. Madden https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170061 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:26:25 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170061 I’m the kind of person that sweeps through the house on a regular basis and gets rid of what I really don’t need. I hate clutter. E-books to me represent a way to still have plenty to read without having to worry about where I’m going to put all those books. BUT I still buy certain books in print because I have such an attachment to them. I can’t see reading Tolkien in anything but an actual paper book. But lots of other things I’ve always wanted to read, but never had room for? Those have been loaded onto my netbook in digital format.

I do wish Amazon, Sony, and other producers of e-readers, as well as publishers, would realize that the person buying and reading the books matter. They need to make it easier to buy, download, and store books, and to move books from one device to another. I won’t always have my netbook. In five years, I’ll probably need to replace it, and reload all those books on a new device. And what if technology changes so quickly that by the time five years has passed, those formats are no longer good?

That’s what worries me the most. That’s probably why I still buy some books in hardback or paperback, so I know I’ll have them no matter what.

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By: Kassia Krozser https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170047 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:23:43 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170047 In reply to Abbeville.

Austin — I’m certainly not arguing that publishers are responsible for piracy, and if I created that impression, I apologize. I’m probably going to say it badly again, but let me try. When a consumer — a reader — goes online searching for a legal digital version of a book and finds nothing, that consumer will not always react in a textbook manner. That reader might assume there’s no digital and move on. That reader will not always shrug and say, “Well, I guess I need to think about something else.” That reader may not, necessarily, be able to distinguish between legal and illegal downloads. That reader may say, “Screw you, publisher!”…and go ahead and acquire a pirated version.

While we all agree piracy is bad, I think it’s really critical that we listen to the reasons behind piracy. It is not a simple, black and white concept. It is not always someone bent on doing bad. There is, I think, an uncomfortableness in discussing this topic, but if we do not acknowledge that piracy exists and there are layers of reasons, how do we seriously engage in combatting it? What are you fighting when you fight piracy?

I ask this question in all seriousness. I mean, how can you (not you personally, but the greater you) quantify lost sales versus increased awareness or actual sales? How much money are you really losing? Does every pirated copy actually equal a lost sale or does that pirated copy represent something else? What makes normally honest people think it’s okay to steal content? Are we asking these questions, talking to “pirates”, gaining insight into their thinking? What are you fighting?

One thing iTunes has taught us is that consumers will pay for entertainment content if basic criteria are met. One key factor is availability (others are, of course, price and usability). While there are indeed people who will, for reasons that seem unfathomable to most of us, pirate content, there are more who will pay. It is the job of publishers to make the pay option the most attractive choice. That was the failure of the music industry — they tried every possible scheme but the one that utilized the technology and access preferred by consumers.

I would love smarter anti-piracy enforcement. I encourage it, and I thank you for your piece and the link. But I am also a bit tired of publishing people not hearing what readers are saying (and I’m not including Sourcebooks here because I know they’re listening and absorbing and making the best possible decisions for their business) . It’s always the consumer who is bad, wrong, not getting it. But is that true? I don’t think so. Over the course of the past few posts, a lot of readers have voiced strong opinions. Are they being considered?

I mean, if you’re not listening to the people who buy your books, who are you listening to?

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By: Abbeville https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170045 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:21:13 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170045 Kassia – We agree that publishers who face a demand for e-versions of their titles should be prompt in making them available and reasonable in pricing them. That’s just good business sense. We disagree, though, with any implication that publishers might somehow be at fault for digital piracy of their products. We know that’s not literally what you’re arguing, but we’d caution against a “blame the victim” mentality whereby well-intentioned citizens are thought to be “driven,” out of frustration, to steal.

The truth is that online retail has made nearly every book on earth 10 times more available than it would have been 15 years ago. Rarely does a consumer have “no ability to purchase a legal copy of [a] book”; you mean a legal copy in the exact format he or she prefers, at the exact instant he or she wants it. There’s a big difference, although the latter is still a demand publishers should strive to fulfill. Regardless, piracy is never a valid option; consumers should have every right to vote with their wallets, but not with their sticky fingers.

Ultimately, the rise of digital piracy has far more to do with the ease and low risk of the crime than with the stodginess of evil media companies. We’d like to believe that the majority of pirates are frustrated, law-abiding consumers who would leap at the chance to pay money instead of getting stuff for free if given a chance to do so, but the persistence of music theft in spite of iTunes suggests otherwise. Editorials like yours, then, raise many valid points but would ultimately be better directed toward calls for smarter anti-piracy law enforcement. See our post at the Abbeville Manual of Style today: http://www.abbeville.com/blog/?p=4077. As always, we welcome further comments and debate.

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By: BookClover https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-170004 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:39:26 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-170004 Wow, so glad to know I’m not the only one…but where do you put all the books? I am having storage problems…my house looks like a bookshop, more or less. Only differecence is that we don’t sell books, we breathe them 😉

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By: Alia Yunis https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-169991 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:14:51 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-169991 What do have our comfort reads for–just so their handy when a passage needs to be found to requote or to take us into that world that we loved in the book or to share with a friend. Your Kindle is always with you for that. Your books might be any of the scores of places you’ve lived or given away as they were two hard move or hidden away in boxes because you have no space in 700 square foot apartment. And then kindle doesn’t and its binding doesn’t come undone. Sure, books are more romantic, but sometimes, if you take a look at your moving bills, you just have to be practical.

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By: TerryS https://booksquare.com/comfort-reads-on-the-21st-century/#comment-169959 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:09:23 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=3318#comment-169959 After a lifetime of physically moving boxes of my keepers, more and more I find myself replacing my favorite paper copies with digital. For those which aren’t available yet in e, I continue to schlep around the paper as I have no time for piracy. My buy rate has dr opped to around 5% for paper. If it is available in e, that is how I buy … except if the e price is higher than the paper…then I don’t buy it al all. My own one person crusade.

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