Comments on: Life On Venus: Authors Do Market https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&%23038;utm_campaign=life-on-venus-authors-do-market Dissecting the publishing industry with love and skepticism Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: P. Pennington Douros https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-173174 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:15:58 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-173174 I’ve written eight books. One novel is self-published, one is being published by a trade publisher. Already at times I feel overwhelmed, even despaired, by the amount that the publisher wants me do to market the book and the expense. But I’m learning at those times to ground myself by remembering my main purpose as a writer/artist: to put truthful concepts and experiences into creative forms that communicate powerfully and to share that with people who would benefit. I also remember that it is never really about publishers. They ultimately matter little in the realization of artist visions and purposes. As long as our purposes align enough, we can work together. If not, then not, and I continue anyway.

It also helps that I have past experience as a visual artist, a painter, and an art director in the film industry. I learned how the systems work and also overcame many of the the ego problems that can plague and destroy an artist. I feel more confident and self-assured now.
So my suggestion is to work with publishers for mutual purposes but always keep artistic vision and purpose first. That is what we are about and what will keep us sane.

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By: Kassia Krozser https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-172836 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:55:58 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-172836 @ MomofSeven — no, this is not normal. A reputable traditional publisher will send review copies to people, though many authors do send their own ARCs. However, they are not expected to purchase the books they send for review.

I am assuming you have gone with a self-publishing company, and this sounds like a horrible deal. In fact, it sounds like a scam to me. I strongly advocate doing more research about your publisher, and, frankly, doing more research about self-publishing option (and traditional publishing options).

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By: Momof Seven https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-172835 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 04:50:40 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-172835 I’m okay with the writer needing to market his/her book. I am willing to do radio/tv interviews, speak to audiences, etc. However, my publisher expects me to purchase 500 of my books from them (a 55 % discount if I buy 1,000 copies!) and mail these “review copies, not for resale” to 500 reviewers and famous persons, in an attempt to solicit “blurbs” for the cover, and possibly a foreword. Because the price they have set for my little paperback is $19.95, I would have to spend thousands of dollars to purchase my books and thousands more to send them out to reviewers, etc. I am curious if this is the standard procedure. Are all authors expected by their publishers to do this? I need to know!
Thank you.

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By: dr. kimberley garth-james https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-172799 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:17:21 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-172799 I agree that selling is scary and a challenge. As the author of Eleuthera: Improve Corrections and Save Our Communities, it’s difficult to find the audience most interested in buying the book. People are interested in corrections, crime and revitalizing their community. Will they pay to hear an academic? How do I make the words come to life?
thanks

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By: Michele Cozzens https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-172228 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:48:56 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-172228 This is an empowering post for those with books to sell–especially those with freshly-published work who need a nudge to take off the WRITER cap and put on the AUTHOR cap. Thank you.

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By: Roger Neetz https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-170896 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:52:59 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-170896 My comment is listed above.

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By: Roger Neetz https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-170895 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:51:14 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-170895 Greetings; I read a lot of words. most suggesting that a writer take on the role of a marketeer because that is what the publisher expects him to do.
None of the comments stated or advised what a writer should do , nor stated what the publisher does..

If marketing is not a writers niche , he must spend time learning and that changes the entire scenario. Publishers should at least provide a list of contacts for media comments, and along with the author should prepare an announcement that canbe sent to approprioate reviewers. Getting a book reviewed is mindboggling and may take a year even if you pay a reviewer. A book signing tour is out of the question for 99% of writers.Doing local and immediate surrounding areas is also expensive, . What all the comments lacked or refused to say is that the one and probably only way to get publicity is to hire an agent. If that is what publishers expect an author to do, most of us will just fade away.Internet publicity is also oversold. You may get lots of hits by people who scan for no other purpose than curiosity. I believe there is a market for most books and the publisher and author should concentrate on that market rather than reaching for the stars.
Thank you for listening. Roger Neetz

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By: Authors as Marketers | Beneath the Cover https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-170273 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:35:15 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-170273 […] need to get it out there and shared. As Kassia Krozser thoughtfully wrote in a blog post last year, Life on Venus: Authors Do Market: The publisher helps to achieve its own goals by publishing a single book while the author is […]

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By: Adam Lowe https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-168885 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:26:06 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-168885 [The end got cut off that last post:]

So ultimately you’re your own best PR. Taking part in booksignings and interviews, selling copies to your friends, carrying copies in your trunk to sell in case you meet random individuals who may be interested, leaving business cards, etc, are all useful tools. These are all things that can have a direct impact because if you meet a potential reader, you can tell them as much as you can about the book without it sounding like corporate hard-sell. You can discuss it with people individually. A publisher doesn’t have the time to do that. You also have the opportunity to tap into an important market: your own friends, colleagues and family; your local community; people whose expertise or interests are similar to your own.

Ergo, you need to market if you want to maximise the results. If you don’t, you’re leaving your destiny in the hands of a publishing company which has twenty or a hundred other titles to publicise and whose authors are far more helpful. Make it easier for themselves and for you.

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By: Adam Lowe https://booksquare.com/life-on-venus-authors-do-market/#comment-168884 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:18:46 +0000 http://booksquare.com/?p=2724#comment-168884 Marketing is vital to success in the book world, unfortunately. If you want to write and publish but not put the work in, go to Lulu and create all the art you want. The truth of the matter is, to make writing a paying gig, you have to have demand for your product and you have to meet that demand. Lulu can satisfy demand, within certain perameters, but it cannot create that demand. There are so many books out there, why will anyone pick yours? How will they even know it exists?

Imagine this: one in ten people who find your book will be interested in it (this is being generous); one in two of those will buy it straight away. But let’s say you’re listed alongside 1,000 other books and your potential customer only has 10 minutes to find a book and buy it. They can only look at three or so books before they log off the PC. That gives you maybe a 1/300 chance of them finding your book. Factor in the figures above (10% like the sound of your book; 50% of those buy), you have a 1/6,000 chance of selling a single copy. It would take everyone in the world to log onto Lulu before you’d become a millionaire, and I’m sure that, in the real world, the figure of 1/6,000 is still way too optimistic.

Every time you tell someone from your target audience about your book, you’re marketing it. You’re publicising it whenever you tell _anyone_ about it. Even if you tell 100 people about your book, how many do you seriously think will pick up a copy? That’s why marketing is essential. Telling 100 nuns to buy a book about Satanism would be a waste of time. It’s publicity, but not the right kind. If you sat down and planned things a bit (this is the difference between marketing and publicising, BTW), it then becomes marketing. Don’t tell the nuns when you could be with the local infernalists’ cabal, helping them sacrifice a bull so that when they all take off their robes and have dinner, you can mention your book.

Marketing isn’t as difficult as you’d think; it’s just time consuming. Most marketing is common sense. You need to get your book into the right hands at the right time. Publishers will help with this, and do everything they can, but if you don’t play along with them, you shouldn’t expect wonders. Whether you like it or not, you are your book. You’re part of your brand value as much as your book is. No one can be more enthusiastic about your own book than you can. You know it inside out (or you should do).

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