Comments on: The Other Side of the Story https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&%23038;utm_campaign=the-other-side-of-the-story Dissecting the publishing industry with love and skepticism Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:55:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: KE https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-166794 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:55:33 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-166794 Gee, I own 608 craft books, mostly on quilting, and that doesn’t include my other books, and NOT one is from Amazon. In fact I have never purchased anything from them, and I haven’t missed a thing. Nor a good book.

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By: Joey https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-166135 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:08:11 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-166135 “In response to our recent rant about an author who decided that the best way to help independent bookstores was to pull his book from Amazon,”

Woah. Now isn’t that a tad extreme?

It’s like saying I won’t get my food at the local grocers because a lot of people overate his delicious food and died from heart attack!

Amazon has no fault in this; progress hasn’t been bad- nor will ever be!

Another analogy: shall be ban IT automation because sweatshop workers lose their jobs?

Let them find better jobs elsewhere!

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By: Joe Reasbeck https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-165830 Thu, 24 May 2007 04:19:08 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-165830 I’m a new author. I do have a small publisher and he’s telling me that the discount off the retail cover price required by Amazon is 40%, but as I read your discussion, I thought someone said that Amazon require 55% off the cover price. So which is right? or are they both right? I’m trying to figure this out because I have other bricks and motar type stores that want the book but I’m trying to determine what the typical discount is to a retailer. Any help?

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By: Lisa Logan https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-158789 Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:58:11 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-158789 Rosina,

You raise an interesting point that I wanted to comment on. My understanding of author discounts is quite different than the way you’ve posed it here. I’m wondering about my logic.

My understanding is that authors are welcome to sell books purchased with an author discount. For one thing, booksellers get a discount, too–possibly more than the author (depending on the contract). For another, author-purchased books aren’t eligible for royalty payments, so either way the publisher isn’t losing out. They are still gaining a sale, perhaps even at a higher profit. Plus, this motives the author to help push sales, increasing profits for everyone. Finally, it boosts overall sales numbers. Why would any of that upset the publisher?

If I’m way off base here, someone feel free to correct me.

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By: Janet Szabo https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-158155 Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:54:05 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-158155 I don’t know about other areas, but knitting seems to be one where self-publishing is actually quite common. Most of us started out publishing our own individual knitting pattern lines, and a few of us went on to self-publish newsletters, small magazines, and books. Most of us sell from our own websites.

Even though–as you point out, Rosina–it means worrying about details that authors who sign with publishing houses don’t have to worry about, I like the control I have over my work. And I’ve found that I really enjoy book layout and design.

I belong to an e-mail group of self-publishing knitting designers and I shared this discussion with them. It has set off some brainstorming about how we can get our products into the marketplace through Amazon in addition to the usual distribution channels we’re already using.

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By: Rosina Lippi https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-157552 Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:03:45 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-157552 I have to jump in here with an observation.

This is certainly an interesting discussion, but it’s moot for most authors. My publisher makes decisions about how to get the books out there, and their attitude seems to be, the more coverage, the better. Which makes sense to me. Amazon, B&N, front table displays, anything that puts the book in the public eye.

My contract (and it’s not unusual) also makes it clear that I earn the same amount on every sale, a percentage of the suggested retail, no matter who sells it and at what discount. Further: I am not allowed to resell books myself. I do know of one author who buys tons of his/her books at the author discount and then sells them to the public at full retail through the web, but I’m pretty sure that his/her publisher would be very, very unhappy if they knew about that.

I am in a position where I don’t have to worry about the details of publishing, marketing or sales — but that doesn’t mean I don’t worry. It’s just the nature of the beast.

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By: SusanGable https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-157064 Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:31:33 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-157064 Top Secret Project! Wooohooo! LOL. Sounds exciting — never mind the wrapping, get the UNwrapping!

Janet, way cool that you found a way to harness Amazon’s power to work in a better way for you. That’s the way to do it!

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By: ktwice https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-156981 Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:10:17 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-156981 The comments have been great — it’s like you all are doing my work for me. Hmm, I like that.

I’m glad to see that you found a solution that works, Janet. One thing I was going to mention about seven comments back is that the husband, who bought me the greatest knitting bag ever (apparently, my former solution…aka sheer disaster…was driving him crazy) and a cool book of patterns for Christmas, wouldn’t have the savvy to look anywhere but Amazon. He tried hanging out at a few knitting blogs, but, you know, they’re not geared toward the person who is just looking for something cool and fun as a gift.

SG, crystal ball is in the shop — it needs serious polishing. In the meantime, I’m going to focus all my love and attention on the Top Secret Project. Part one is done, now for the wrapping!

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By: Janet Szabo https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-156978 Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:23:41 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-156978 Update: I am now selling my books (both of them) through Amazon, but as a supplier rather than a publisher. Selling in their Marketplace allows me to list the book, receive orders, and fill them. Amazon takes a reasonable but not exhorbitant cut of the profit. I make less money selling this way than directly from my website, but more money that I do selling as a publisher and allowing Amazon to handle all the fulfillment. So it looks like a win-win for everybody–those “Amazon-only” buyers can find and order my books and I make a decent profit. Hooray.

I’ll stop commenting now. 🙂

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By: Janet Szabo https://booksquare.com/the-other-side-of-the-story/#comment-156972 Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:14:03 +0000 http://www.booksquare.com/archives/2006/12/27/2248/#comment-156972 Something did occur to me this morning as I was thinking about this discussion, so I went to Amazon’s website and did a little bit of research. Rather than sell through them as a publisher, I am investigating selling through them as a Pro Merchant. It looks as though by doing so, my items are listed in Amazon but customers purchase from my website and I ship out the books. I’m waiting to get more information from them; specifically, what kind of cut they take for allowing me to list my items through them.

If nothing else, this discussion stimulated some “thinking outside the box” and I certainly appreciate that!

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